Legislature(1993 - 1994)

04/06/1994 08:35 AM House FIN

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  HB 370    An Act making appropriations for the operating and                 
            loan program  expenses of state  government and to                 
            capitalize funds; and  providing for an  effective                 
            date.                                                              
                                                                               
            HB  370   was  HELD   in  Committee  for   further                 
            discussion.                                                        
                                                                               
  HOUSE BILL 370                                                               
                                                                               
       "An Act  making appropriations  for  the operating  and                 
       loan  program  expenses  of  state  government  and  to                 
       capitalize funds; and providing for an effective date."                 
                                                                               
  Department of Public Safety                                                  
                                                                               
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  Co-Chair MacLean  MOVED to  adopt the  Department of  Public                 
  Safety's budget as  amended by the House  Finance Committee.                 
  There being NO OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                    
                                                                               
  Department of Natural Resources                                              
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson MOVED  TO RESCIND  previous action taken  on                 
  Amendment #2.  Representative Martin OBJECTED.                               
                                                                               
  A roll call vote was taken on the MOTION.                                    
                                                                               
       IN FAVOR:      Parnell, Grussendorf, Hoffman,  MacLean,                 
                      Larson.                                                  
       OPPOSED:       Therriault, Brown, Hanley, Martin.                       
                                                                               
  Representatives Foster and Navarre were  not present for the                 
  vote.                                                                        
                                                                               
  The MOTION PASSED (5-4).                                                     
                                                                               
  Representative Hanley MOVED to adopt Amendment #2.  Co-Chair                 
  Larson  explained  that  if  the  Division of  Agriculture's                 
  program is diluted,  the emphasis  on agriculture in  Alaska                 
  will vanish.   He emphasized  that agriculture  is a  viable                 
  industry in the State.   Discussion followed among Committee                 
  members  regarding  forest  management and  development  and                 
  forestry and agricultural development within the State.                      
                                                                               
  NICO  BUS, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES,                 
  DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL  RESOURCES, noted  that the merger  of                 
  the Division of Agriculture and Forestry would be handled by                 
  assigning those  functions to the Deputy  Director, Division                 
  of  Forestry.   He  added that  the Division  of Agriculture                 
  currently  is at a critical point  in development and should                 
  be  given  further consideration,  as  it  is  a viable  $30                 
  million dollar  industry.   Mr. Bus  spoke in opposition  to                 
  Amendment #2.                                                                
                                                                               
  A roll call vote was taken on the MOTION.                                    
                                                                               
       IN FAVOR:      Therriault, Brown, Hanley, Martin.                       
       OPPOSED:       Foster,  Grussendorf,  Hoffman, Parnell,                 
  Larson,                  MacLean.                                            
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre was not present for the vote.                         
                                                                               
  The MOTION FAILED (4-6).                                                     
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson advised that Amendment  #3 would restore the                 
  program  receipt  authority which  had  been reduced  by the                 
  Department  of Natural  Resources  (DNR)  Subcommittee.   He                 
                                                                               
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  added that within  the Governor's budget, $270.8  in general                 
  funds was transferred  from the  Division of Agriculture  to                 
  other DNR divisions.  In return, the Division of Agriculture                 
  was given $240.8 program receipt authority to compensate for                 
  that transferred money.                                                      
                                                                               
  JOHN  CRAMER,  (TESTIFIED  VIA   TELECONFERENCE),  DIRECTOR,                 
  DIVISION OF  AGRICULTURE, DEPARTMENT  OF NATURAL  RESOURCES,                 
  advised that  the  Division asks  that  they be  allowed  to                 
  request further  funding from  Legislative Budget  and Audit                 
  Committee if needed revenues can not be generated.  He added                 
  that currently a demand exists for the land and the Division                 
  wants the opportunity to pursue that interest.                               
                                                                               
  Representative Brown questioned the  authority that sale  of                 
  state assets  be  called program  receipts  explaining  that                 
  program receipts  occur when activities exist  that generate                 
  fee receipts.  Mr.  Bus replied that the principle  would be                 
  placed into the general fund and  the interest would be used                 
  for the administration of that program.                                      
                                                                               
  Representative Brown inquired how  the agricultural disposal                 
  would affect the  Point Hope  project. Mr. Cramer  explained                 
  that those agricultural parcel  lands were originally Mental                 
  Health Trust lands.   Each one  of the parcels is  currently                 
  involved in  the mental health  trust litigation.   He added                 
  that when the  litigation is  settled, the Department  would                 
  actively pursue disposing  of those  lands.   Representative                 
  Brown disagreed with that recommendation.                                    
                                                                               
  Representative Brown  MOVED TO  AMEND Amendment  #3 deleting                 
  the program receipt  funding and  replacing it with  general                 
  fund    receipts.       Representative    Martin   OBJECTED.                 
  Representative  Brown advised that it would be inappropriate                 
  to sell state assets and refer  to them as program receipts.                 
  Discussion  followed among  Committee members  regarding the                 
  project and the use of program receipt funding.                              
                                                                               
  A roll call vote was taken on the MOTION.                                    
                                                                               
       IN FAVOR:      Brown, Grussendorf, Hoffman.                             
       OPPOSED:       Foster,    Hanley,   Martin,    Parnell,                 
                      Therriault, Larson.                                      
                                                                               
  Representatives MacLean and Navarre were not present for the                 
  vote.                                                                        
                                                                               
  The MOTION FAILED (3-6).                                                     
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson MOVED to adopt Amendment #3.                                 
                                                                               
  A roll call was taken on the MOTION.                                         
                                                                               
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       IN FAVOR:      Foster, Grussendorf, Martin, Larson.                     
       OPPOSED:       Hanley,  Hoffman,  Parnell,  Therriault,                 
                      Brown.                                                   
                                                                               
  Representatives MacLean and Navarre were not present for the                 
  vote.                                                                        
                                                                               
  The MOTION FAILED (4-5).                                                     
                                                                               
  Representative  Martin  MOVED  to  adopt  the  Department of                 
  Natural Resources' budget  as amended  by the House  Finance                 
  Committee.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was adopted.                        
                                                                               
  (Tape Change, HFC 94-106, Side 2).                                           
                                                                               
  Department of Environmental Conservation                                     
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown  MOVED  TO  RESCIND  action  taken  on                 
  Amendment #6, explaining that if  the move to rescind action                 
  is adopted,  the  funding source  should be  changed to  the                 
  Exxon  Valdez  Settlement   funds.    Representative   Brown                 
  indicated  support  from  the  Department  for the  proposed                 
  change.                                                                      
                                                                               
  BOB POE,  DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF  ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES,                 
  DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL  CONSERVATION (DEC), pointed out                 
  that  last year, there was  $5 million dollars allocated for                 
  research grants  for clean  up from  oil spills.   With  the                 
  current  language,   funds   are  not   available  for   the                 
  administration  of   those  awards.     The   Department  is                 
  requesting  that  $51.5  thousand  dollars  be  earmarked to                 
  assist in the  management of  those grants.   Representative                 
  Martin OBJECTED.                                                             
                                                                               
  Mr. Poe pointed out  that the money allocated is  both trust                 
  money and settlement  money as provided in  legislation from                 
  FY94, CS HB 183 (FIN).   That legislation outlined how those                 
  funds were to  be used.  Co-Chair Larson asked  if the funds                 
  would be reappropriated.   Representative Therriault  stated                 
  they would.                                                                  
                                                                               
  MIKE  GREANY,  DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF LEGISLATIVE  FINANCE,                 
  advised that the funds in question are existing  funds which                 
  have  already been appropriated.  There is no new settlement                 
  allocation.  He indicated that  the preferred approach would                 
  be  consideration  of  the  request  as  a  reappropriation.                 
  Representative  Brown WITHDREW THE MOTION TO RESCIND action.                 
  There being NO OBJECTION, the motion was withdrawn.                          
                                                                               
  Representative Brown MOVED to adopt Amendment #9 which would                 
  allow  the  Storage  Tank  Assistance  Program  to  continue                 
                                                                               
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  administrative  and  technical  assistance responsibilities.                 
  She added that $4.5 million  dollars would be eliminated for                 
  this fiscal year  for grant requests to  private businesses,                 
  which  would  leave  $1.5  million  dollars  for maintenance                 
  operations.                                                                  
                                                                               
  JOHN BURNETT, EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR, UNDERGROUND STORAGE  TANK                 
  PROGRAM, DIVISION OF SPILL PREVENTION & RESPONSE, DEPARTMENT                 
  OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION, provided the Committee with a                 
  summary  sheet of actions taken  by the subcommittee and the                 
  House Finance Committee.  [Copy on  file].  The Storage Tank                 
  Assistance Fund does not issue single grants  for a complete                 
  project in any  given year.   The grants are distributed  as                 
  "phase" projects which allows distribution  for the greatest                 
  need during the year.                                                        
                                                                               
  Mr. Burnett  added  that  the  amount proposed  by  the  DEC                 
  Subcommittee would  not be  enough to  maintain the  current                 
  clean-up grants.   The  Department is  required to  maintain                 
  ground water recovery  systems which restore  drinking water                 
  supplies throughout  the State.   There  are not  sufficient                 
  funds  to  address  those concerns.    Representative Martin                 
  recommended that large companies provide mutual effort grant                 
  matching.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Mr. Burnett explained that the  problem with some facilities                 
  is that the  tanks are out  of the ground and  consequently,                 
  there is  no revenue or income  to pay back the  loans until                 
  the  necessary   recovery  systems  are  installed.    These                 
  companies  participate  contributing  10%  of  the  clean-up                 
  costs.  Discussion followed among  Committee members and Mr.                 
  Burnett regarding the  priorities and base amount  needed to                 
  continue on-going operations.                                                
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown  advised that  a funding  source other                 
  than  general  funds  should be  considered  and recommended                 
  adding a one cent tax to address those needs.                                
                                                                               
  Representative Therriault requested further consideration of                 
  Amendment #8.                                                                
                                                                               
  Co-Chair MacLean reminded the Committee  that there was a $2                 
  million dollar allocation request in  the capital budget for                 
  above ground storage tanks.  She added that  additionally it                 
  would  cost $5 million  dollars per village  to clean-up the                 
  above  ground   storage  tanks.     Representative   Hoffman                 
  recommended  that the  appropriation  be  divided 50/50  for                 
  above and below ground tanks.                                                
                                                                               
  Co-Chair   MacLean  MOVED   to  adopt   the   Department  of                 
  Environmental Conservation's budget as amended by  the House                 
  Finance Committee.  Amendments #8 & #9 were HELD for further                 
                                                                               
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  consideration.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was adopted.                    
                                                                               
  HB 370 was HELD for further consideration.                                   

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